Inspired by the article I write about on my Cfnm Blog in this post: Interesting Cfnm Article I'd like to hear others thoughts and opinions. Discuss

Part of the problem I think, is that there just happen to be more males into cfnm than females. Making a paysite, and having scenes shot is pretty expensive - you are talking $1-2 per scene, and that has to be paid for somehow. Add in the editing, bandwidth, upkeep and other sundry factors, and I can see why most cfnm sites go for a target male audience (in general terms).

The stripper sites such as This One are obviously shot at real events, so naturally feature tipsy women behaving badly, and personally I find that a great turn on from both sides - the women able to relax in a large female only environment, free to have 'fun with the girls' much like men would at a stag night, and the strippers themselves in the role a lot of male cfnm fans enjoy - being the centre of attention, to willing women who see him as a sex object. It doesn't matter if they are drunk or not, it's the fact they are obviously enjoying themselves so much that their inhibitions in a normal environment go out the window.

As for sites such as Pure Cfnm and The Cfnm Site, which are geared more towards women, though obviously with male surfers foremost in mind, I think they do a decent enough job of mixing up the different cfnm scenarios and sub-fetishes within cfnm (such as humiliation, exhibitionism, female dominance, male embarrasment, etc) that cfnm fans as a whole, be they male or female can take enough from them to be satisfied.

Helen,

The porn industry ruins everything. They misinterpret and exaggerate all sexual desires in pursuit of a buck.

Examples:

Whether that it is because of, or in spite of, gray hair and a line or two I don't know, but I find that classy mature women that never let themselves become dowdy are very sexy.   The porn industry response is pictures of toothless hags with tits sagging to their belly button. Nope, that is not it, they completely missed it.

If you like plump girls with a little junk in the trunk, the porn industry's response is morbidly obese cows that are nearing three spins on the scale.   Nope, that is not it either

If you find that the clear direction of a strong woman is a turn-on, then you really want her to shove golf balls up your ass, right? Nope, that's not it.

The industry is doing the same thing to CFNM. For my wife and I CFNM is a nice little turn-on  Something that piques both of our sex drives. It is a wink and giggle over dinner. It is not a world rocking obsession that dominates our every thought.  The porn industry can't make money off of a wink and giggle.

I hope I am not committing a forum faux pas by bringing such an old thread back to life, but I just joined and have some catching-up to do.  I agree with the last post, surely there is more commentary to be had about this topic.

I am a male who is into what I consider the original, "true" or "pure" CFNM, i.e., CFNM should first and foremost be for the enjoyment and pleasure of the ladies.  And I agree completely about the porn industry morphing it into something different.  I suppose porn is market-driven like everything else, so if more men (the primary paying customer of any porn product, I suspect) want to see BJ's, orgasms, and outright sex, I guess that is what the sites will produce.

But it is frustrating to someone like me, who enjoys the purist aspects of the original intent of CFNM.  I noticed things shifting about 2004, I guess, with "CFNM" picture galleries and video clips moving more and more toward sex parties instead of purly exhibitionist/voyeur situations.  It has indeed stripped women of the power position and made it about male pleasure instead.  A complete 180 in my opinion.  These days, it is difficult to find the quantity of "true" CFNM material that used to exist.  Much of it is older stuff I have already seen.

That said, I don't think it is out of bounds to show a male orgasm in a true CFNM scenario, but it should not be the goal or an expectation every time.  Let' face it, most CFNM situations have at least some level of sexual component to them, so sexual responses should be expected.  The "oops" orgasm is a perfect example.  Another situation might be when the ladies have gotten the guy so frustrated that he can be coaxed into masturbating himself in front of everybody.  If orgasm does happen, it should be something the ladies can feel a sense of pride over ("Ha ha, we made him lose it!!!) while simultaneously inducing a sense of shame and embarrassment in the guy.